I'm an admin from the scoobypedia, we're trying to find a way for newcomers to understand the rules. I noticed the Rules and Guidelines on this wiki and wanted to know how to get that. The S said that there's an admin link at the bottom of nearly every article, but it took me to licensing. So I'm wondering if I need a license for that.
Huh, weird. I saw what he posted on this wall, but didn't find anything with options like "Upload photo, "My Tools", anything it said in the image. The link I found where the image showed was CC-BY-SA.
I was making a quick edit on Hellio's, and when I went back to find a link to the O'Neil Family Farmhouse, I noticed that Within the Woods and A Foot Too Big was edited with this "OC" character named "Tony". I wanted to inform you, because I don't know who's been making those edits and to be on the look out for ANY of those in any of the articles involving the 2012 series.
The last three times I saw Prophet-of-Ganja comment, it was on pages I'd been editing. And the last two of those looked like outbursts. He seems angry about something, but wouldn't respond to questions. Considering he's listed as an admin and a moderator, is there anything I should be concerned about?
Hi The S! I'm Mike from FANDOM's Community Development Team. With the upcoming release of the new animated series Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, we would like to offer you a Main Page spiff and redesign to tie in with the series in association with Nickelodeon.
The new main page would be produced by our design team, and include a new wordmark, background, an updated look and feel in line with the new series, and a character portal with updated character avatars.
In addition to this, the other thing I would like to propose is enabling the Discussions feature and migrating your existing forums across to the new feature. In case you are unaware, Discussions was introduced to help communities engage with users and fans. It lives in its own space on the wiki and allows users to interact with other members of the community. It is also mobile friendly, and gives mobile users a chance to contribute and engage with the community, and possibly turn them into wiki editors as well. You can read more about Discussions here.
For more information on migrating forums to Discussions, you can check out this blog over on Community Central that explains everything in detail.
If you have some concerns, Discussions and Forums can exist side-by-side in case you do not want to migrate just yet. However, eventually all Forums will be migrated over to Discussions, so getting ahead of the curve is never a bad idea.
The S, please don't hitch the entire wiki's look and feel to the new show's reputation yet. It's still such an extremely divisive topic on this wiki. I like the more IDW comics-oriented approach, like we already did with the background. IDW has been doing lots of really great stuff lately.
Wiki ate my response so I'm gonna paraphrase what I said before.
The Wiki is not for the vets. It's for the uninitiated. We are primarily an entrypoint for those that would be coming off of the newest version or event of the property. We temporarily changed things for the movies each time Wikia asked, and there was a longer-lasting change after the 2012 show came out.
While I think the change would be more beneficial closer to the series' premiere (like August, maybe?) I'm not going to deny Wikia's request because of something so trivial.
Also the overall look of the Wiki isn't IDW themed at all outtside of one image as the background. Even the current logo is actually from Wikia's MegaBloks promotion.
I mean, like you said, it's for the uninitiated and not for veterans, right? There's this new show that people might be watching, and there's also this current ongoing comic that people might be picking up for the first time. It's just a thought.
Well I guess primarily for the uninitiated. I mean, us old-timers obviously get a lot of use out if it, but people who don't know their Old Hob from their Paul Clearwater really are the target audience. I didn't think about clarifying for this.
I want to see what Wikia has in mind for this redesign. It may not be as drastic as you might think.
@Cavalier_One would it be possible to see a preview of the redesign, to determine if it is right for the Wiki?
At the moment, this is just an outreach to see if you are receptive to the idea of the spiff which it looks like you are so that is good!
Also, considering that the series is several months away, the redesign would not be immediate, but closer to the airing of the show and likely for the duration of the season.
As a result, there is currently no design to preview since it has not been made yet. However, the design team will work with the community to ensure that the proposed redesign meets with your approval and is a design that you are happy to use.
If it doesn't actually appear in the series, it doesn't need an article. You could argue for fictional locations like a character's planet of origin even if it doesn't appear, but why would we have something like Yugoslavia just because the name showed up as text once?
I just noticed the unnamed Mirage Studios Volume 4 pages are inconsistent. Some are named "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles issue # (volume 4)" others "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (vol 4) #". I'll argue putting the vol first makes the most sense.
Whatever decision is made, don't forget to rename the subpages so that transcript pages also properly redirect to one another. Also, if I recall, at some time later in volume 4, "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" was dropped from the title entirely and it was just "TMNT."
Well, considering all the volume 4 issues had "TMNT" as the more prominent component of the title, and later volume 4 issues completely dropped the "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" part, and the somewhat contemporaneous Tales of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles volume 2 was always just "Tales of the TMNT", I vote that all volume 4 issues be primarily titled "TMNT."
Except they completely dropped the "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" part later in the volume. This was part of a prevailing later Mirage pattern—TMNT volume 4, Tales of the TMNT, the 2007 film TMNT, etc. Eventually, none were called any variation of "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles." I think the longer form in early volume 4 was just acclimate readers familiar with the older title, but then they shortened it, which may have been appropriate given that the turtles were already in their 30s.
Just browsed the titles. The change happened in issue #30, which also coincided with a new style of title logo. This issue was from 2009, and the TMNT film was from 2007, and Tales of the TMNT had already adopted the shorter title component back in 2004.
I noticed when an episode or comic is a multi-parter the title of the article is "name, part#". What happens when the title spells the number like "Name Part One". Should the article be named to follow suit?
The problem with that is it's rarely consistent. The solicit will use part 1, the cover will use "part one", and then maybe an interior will say "part 1" again(? I think). Reprints sometimes also just toss one or the other in.
I think this sort of thing went back as far as Mirage. I remember also Archie would use like "part 1 of 5" or whatever for their interior page logo but then not like ever use that terminology for any other reference to it (including if I remember correctly, the indica).
One thing I'd been thinking about, semi-related, is capitalization. Things I normally had seen (non-Turtle related, mostly), relegate "part x" to lower-case, as it's not the title but a supplement to the title, to inform the reader of something. However, it seems lately, I have seen it capitalized in a lot of things (both Turtles--wise and other), oddly.
IDW, again, is no help since their site/solicits are never consistent (part vs. Part, for example)
Personally, Dank, just as an observer, I think you're overthinking it. When I wrote the article for Mutagen Maintenance, I corrected the original title's typo ("Mutagen Maitenance") without even realizing it. When we realized the discrepancy, we kept the corrected title.
Book name (volume name if applicable) issue number (or the other way around) really doesn't work for a bulk of the stories which are bit and bobbed out between different printings. It's far easier to keep track of where Credo is printed (just using the first backup that pops into my head, I don't know how many times it's been reprinted) than say, the backup strip of Tales vol. 2 issue 33. That's why ... I don't think it was me, but someone implemented a system that works I think, where books with multiple stories are broken up into their stories, but there's also the book itself that links to those. That way if Credo and The Bait are reprinted seperately in stuff, you can follow it easier. This is especially helpful when a backup spills over to more than one main story, or is part/prelude to a different main story (like Kingdom of Rats), as we've seen happen in TMNT Universe.
I know stuff mentioned in the easter eggs pages usually references other works, etc. Like Rocksteady's Pac-Man nipple tattoo in B&RDE. But what if the easter egg is well-hidden profanity of a level not usually found in the work? It seems just as easter eggy to me, seeing as someone took the time to hide it in plain sight and sneak it past the radar.
Yes, Zak (Image) with cascade enabled, apparently, after you and Dank got in a little article-renaming back-and-forth. I can understand temporarily locking one page, but every template that's embedded on it, too? XD
When you visit a redirect, and it redirects you to another article, there's small text below the article title that says something like "redirected from Whatever Name". Click that redirect's name, and it'll take you to the redirect page without redirecting you a second time. Click Edit, and you can edit the redirect...or replace it with a proper article.
It all appears to be in working order, and I've updated the relative navigation links. Thank you.
And I had the permissions to rename the first one because the article name Enemies Old, Enemies New: Prologue/Transcript did not exist yet. The same was not true of the others. Users without elevated permissions like myself can only rename articles to names that are not yet assigned to anything.
There's a good reason for that restriction: The preservation of article edit histories. Ordinary users can create new articles or rename articles to unused names, as a new article has no prior edit history, and existing edit histories are moved along with article renamings. But it would be a bad thing for unelevated users to be able to rename articles to existing names, even if the existing name is itself just another redirect, because even existing redirects have edit histories, and it would be bad for anyone besides an administrator/moderator to be able to unliterally destroy a whole edit history. It's the same reason why only administrators/moderators can do true rollbacks of series of edits and remove them from the edit history: The power to fundamentally alter existing edit histories (rather than merely add new items to them) must necessarily be a privileged operation. It's about preserving every step of a page's history and its list of contributors, which is especially helpful for administrators/moderators if you need to police pages from erroneous edits, inappropriate edits or outright vandalism.
So far, we still refer to Renet (Mirage) and Time Scepter (Mirage) and Savanti Romero (Mirage) and so forth, though some of these have made repeat new appearances in the IDW continuity. I know we have separate articles for other topics like Leonardo (Mirage) and Leonardo (Image), even though the latter's history was the former, because of Peter Laird's edict on Mirage canon, and the fact that Mirage V4 and Tales of the TMNT V2 completely ignore the Image continuity anyway. But he told me himself on his blog when I asked him continuity questions, that he no longer has any legal authority to make pronouncements on what is or is not Mirage canon now or in the future, and IDW technically already began its Mirage crossovers at least since Renet's first appearance in the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2014 Annual.
So, my question is, how do we name the Mirage/IDW-shared articles? Should it be Renet (Mirage/IDW), just like the "Golden Harvest/Imagi" convention? The latter is also two different creators working on the same continuity, but where Golden Harvest stopped working on it, Imagi picked it up with the 2007 film. And IDW's TMNT: Bebop & Rocksteady Destroy Everything! is clear that there is one Renet, one Savanti Romero, etc., between both the IDW continuity and the Mirage continuity. We don't necessarily know if anything done in the future with the Mirage continuity, as Peter Laird is legally permitted to do by the terms of the sale to Viacom, would agree on this point, except that, as I said, it's no longer his authority to decide that for the Mirage continuity anyway no matter what he produces, and IDW has already produced new material set entirely within the Mirage continuity material such as both Ready Set Go! and Night of the Ninja Girl in the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 30th Anniversary Special.
But what about associated topics that have only thus far between referenced in IDW continuity material but never yet mentioned in Mirage, like Renet's much older future self as seen in B&RDE? Would it be Renet (Future) (IDW) or Renet (Future) (Mirage/IDW)?
Apparently, Easol1 found a statement from the IDW editors that they have specifically been authorized by Viacom to link the Mirage and IDW time travel characters, but not to claim their counterparts of the other continuities (2003, 2012, etc.). (To be honest, I'd like to see that reference myself.)
Okay, it's issue 62, second letter in the back. I'll put it down here:
"I love that you guys established that it's always the same Renet in Mirage and IDW, that was awesome. My question is, can you officially confirm if it's still that same Renet in the two cartoon appearances? And to go a step further, is that the same Renet's scepter in TMNT 3?..."
ANSWER: "We can't officially confirm that it's the same Renet in other media... that's for others to do. But I think it's a fun idea, and an idea we'd love to see take root. After all, when it comes to time travel and alternate dimensions, who is to say what's truly canon? Some other time traveler could come in at any time and shake things up."
No, Renet appeared in... (checking) Remember That One Time...? The backup story for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Amazing Adventures issue 14. She appeared in 7 of the story's 8 pages and was a major character in it. I remember writing a Turtlepedia blog entry about it at the time because I was particularly impressed that it was a Nick-style Mikey and Renet story where they aren't constantly kissing or getting handsy (and in fact don't kiss and only touch platonically).
But I have to agree with you that Amazing Adventures (as well as New Animated Adventures before it) were pretty weak "continuities." Not that they contradicted themselves, but that they seldom ever tried to build on their own material at all outside of self-contained multi-part stories. The most meaningful permanent change they made was in the series finale of Robotanimals when they killed off Baxter Stockman while ending the story with Splinter still very much alive and well. Taken as a whole, it no longer seems like the continuity difference between NAA and AA even has any meaning anymore, because they both relied too heavily on developments taken from the 2012 series for all their established backstory, and didn't even really try to leave a lasting mark on their own series. NAA was actually forbidden from doing so, but AA was allowed to do so but ultimately didn't until its finale when it no longer really mattered. It was like, "okay, let's reboot NAA as AA but do exactly the same thing we've already been doing, rendering the difference in series completely moot." Where NAA or AA did introduce original characters, you would have been right to be 100% certain that you would never see them appear again after their story arcs ended.