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  • As I've been transcribing IDW TMNT issues for the wiki, I've in the process been revisiting the continuity's central supernatural lore. And I realized something:

    So I'm thinking, it may be necessary to streamline our IDW reincarnated character articles into a single common practice. And if so, that would seem to imply one of two mutually exclusive solutions:


    Now on an only loosely related matter, I've been thinking Ninja Turtles (IDW) could maybe be renamed to Clan Hamato (IDW), as that formal name (in that specific wording, as opposed to "Hamato Clan" or "Hamato family") was bestowed by Splinter onto his four sons after they chose to leave his Foot Clan, and Leonardo has been using the title officially for the group comprising himself and his brothers ever since. Though it's possible that "Clan Hamato" could be understand to mean their family in general, Splinter appears to treat it in a strictly formal protocol of ninja clan affiliation that seems to exclude himself by virtue of being jonin of a different clan, and in Invasion of the Triceratons has even forced consultations with Leonardo to follow the protocol of jonin-to-jonin diplomacy. It may be that this is just a special cultural baggage common to both Splinter and Leo, and ultimately Clan Hamato (IDW) could just be a redirect to Ninja Turtles (IDW), but...I kinda wanted to know what you thought about all this before I considered making any major edits on the distinction.

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    • Wait why would Takeshi be the given name? This isn't the original TV series and I highly doubt that they'd break the name order for him but keep the Oroku and Hamato the way they are. I mean I know Takeshi's normally a given name but they kept the name structure consistent otherwise.

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    • Because the text is inconsistent—both "Takeshi Tatsuo" and "Tatsuo Takeshi" are used in the story text. And this makes sense—it is conventional Western practice to analyze Japanese names and reverse the name order when speaking in English—it is only TMNT series convention that "Hamato Yoshi", "Oroku Saki" and such are exempt—otherwise they would be "Yoshi Hamato" and "Saki Oroku". Even in Amazing Adventures' Quiet Please, when Donatello is writing cute little notes in his work notebook, he adds a little heart with the initials A.O. and D.H.—April O'Neil and Donatello Hamato. Donatello is a westernized person and switches the name order for himself.

      References:

      The transcripts are organized into page sections. Check the comic pages themselves by number for corroboration. Barring the possibility of me making typoes, they should check out.

      Also, "Takeshi" is also a very common Japanese masculine given name. But is not a surname. (Not that this matters too much, as modern Japanese naming practice only dates back to the 19th century, making many of the feudal Japan names anachronistic anyway.)

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  • In the Archie comics, is the Turtle Van refered to as the Turtle Van or the Party Wagon in English?

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  • Are you interested in joining the Usagi Yojimbo wiki (http://usagistudios.wikia.com/wiki/Usagi_Studios_Wikia) ? 

    With the UY TV series announced, Usagi's popularlity is sure to grow, and there's already a large fandom overlap with TMNT.

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  • Since I've been doing IDW comics transcripts, I've noticed that some of the existing article names are...unwieldy. Since we've already been moving away from the raw "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles issue whatever (IDW)" format and towards "Story Title" format for article names, there are other articles I thought could be similarly renamed, but I wanted to discuss it first.

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    • There is no Fox Encounter. I made that up as an example.

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    • Ahh, okay then.

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  • Due to "wikias" being referred to as "wikis" again, I went ahead and updated the wordmark and one of the main page headers ;)

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  • I have been trying to make a cover gallery for Knights in a Half Shell but when I do nothting happens.

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    • The markup structure for the images were not functional for gallery code. It looks like I've got it working now.

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  • https://www.readdcentertainment.com/Batman-Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-II-2017-1/digital-comic/T1763500015001?ref=c2l0ZS9pbmRleC9kZXNrdG9wL2xhcmdlQ2Fyb3VzZWw

    Just confirmed another IDW Publishing/DC Comics crossover with Batman and the Ninja Turtles had just begun. Wanted to give you the heads up.

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  • We've sort of been skating around this issue for some time, but perhaps it's time we discussed it formally. Historically, when comics story articles needed a comic cover or comic page for their top picture, that cover was displayed at 250px wide. And this makes perfect sense...if your desktop resolution is still 1024x768. But my past few computers' resolutions have all been 1600x900. And, to be frank, 250px images look uncomfortably tiny on this screen (sometimes I have to squint), so I've been setting these page top images to be 400px wide. If 250px was approximately 1/4 the width of a 1024px-wide display, then 400px is exactly 1/4 the width of a 1600px-wide display. I would like your permission to keep maintaining comic cover/page top images to be 400px wide. This is a question of ensuring article pages look like they were written for the PCs of 2017, not the PCs of 2007. It just seems more reasonable to ask people with older PCs to zoom out as needed with Ctrl "-" than it is to ask people with modern PCs to zoom in as needed with Ctrl "+". As for mobile browser displays, the image width is moot because mobile-friendly pages zoom more variably, and Wikia's mobile site gives editors far less control over markup behavior anyway.

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      Sometimes I'm not sure what your point is, honestly. Ya ramble a bit into other topics.
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    • That's fair, I do have a tendency to ramble, and I may be pathologically incapable of brevity in personal correspondence. Is there any one point you want me to clarify? The second paragraph of my previous response seems most on-topic.

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  • Thanks for helping out. I'd have edited more, discussed here more, but I've been dealing with Thanksgiving food coma.

    What should we do about the issue 4 Zoo Amsterdam cameos? So far I only created Splinter (Zoo Amsterdam) (an admittedly conjectural title) since he has a couple lines of dialogue and functions as an ctual plot device. But I decided not to make articles for the other nine cameos until I discussed it with you first. I mean, I understand that, to some degree, they function as sight gags. But how to treat them? As cameos of characters from other continuities? Or cameos of Zoo Amsterdam versions of their characters? I mean, obviously, they're implied to be Zoo Amsterdam natives, given that April's shown as a cat and Jack Marlin's shown as a crocodile. But is it okay to give them articles, even very short ones?

    Also, not all the cameos are made to resemble classic TMNT versions. Manmoth and Wingnut more resemble their IDW versions, with Manmoth's broken tusk, and Wingnut's face being a much closer match to IDW than Archie.

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    • The S wrote: If only there were a place on the internet where you could reference such things... :D

      Yeah, I actually try to forget they exist.

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    • Aww :(

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